MSNBC's Hardball: Right-Wing Extremist Groups On The Extreme Rise with Mark Potok of SPLC (Southern Poverty Law Center) and Brian Levin of the Center for the Study of Hate and Extremism at the California State University at San Bernardino. Notice how, even though Levin is mostly of one mind with Potok and Matthews, they treat him as if he were a right wing shill--probably because he's not as "married" to his hate for Middle America as they think he should be: he's actually interested in thought! Heaven forfend! Get with the PROGRAM, Brian!! Brian just didn't understand that he was supposed to support the meme!
A disgusting echo from the Los Angeles Times Mockingbird Media indeed......or are those magpies?
When the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) speaks, the MSM listen... or... rather, they mindlessly parrot and parrot and parrot. Oh, and sometimes they embellish.
I went looking around SPLC's web site. There are a lot of themes that I resonate with. There are themes about freedom, themes about bad treatment of workers, and many others that really get ya right there. Even I, after knowing for years--no, it's decades--about SPLC and its manipulation of public opinion about guns and freedom, wondered if there wasn't something redeeming about the organization, based on the good stuff they put out there as, "See what good we do!"
One might even be inclined to think that SPLC could be a great ally of those of us who demand our rights and freedoms, and who really want to bring the country in line with its promises of freedom and of equality of all people before just and reasonable laws.
Not so quick, though... consider these:
The Southern Poverty Law Center identified 1274 anti-government “Patriot” groups that were active in 2011. Of these groups, 334 were militias, marked with an asterisk, and the remainder includes “common-law” courts, publishers, ministries and citizens’ groups.
Generally, Patriot groups define themselves as opposed to the “New World Order,” engage in groundless conspiracy theorizing, or advocate or adhere to extreme antigovernment doctrines. Listing here does not imply that the groups themselves advocate or engage in violence or other criminal activities, or are racist.
The list was compiled from field reports, Patriot publications, the Internet, law enforcement sources and news reports. Groups are identified by the city, county or region where they are located.
What follows is a state-by-state tally of the 185 groups that the SPLC lists as nativist extremist groups active in 2011. In the case of the two largest formations — the Minuteman Project (MMP) and the Federal Immigration Reform and Enforcement Coalition (FIRE) — acronyms have been added to help identify their affiliated chapters.
The great majority of the groups listed are neither anti-government, nor racist, nor any kind of hate-oriented. Are their members angry? Some are, but it doesn't mean anyone's about to go out and play rough ridin' vigilante over it, as SPLC would have us believe. This even applies to the militia groups they're on about. And what? Folks aren't allowed to have feelings about the subversion of a wonderful country?
Note this from the LA Times article:
The typical patriot acts within his free-speech and 2nd Amendment rights, and in fact most patriot activity consists of venting steam by meeting with like-minded Neanderthals and firing off blog posts threatening civil war.Neanderthals. How charming, LA Times. When will you ever elevate yourself out of such juvenile tactics? The fallacy of ad hominem--attacking the person and not the argument--when someone trots it out, one should take a close look at how weak, indeed, is the ad hominemizer's argument, such as it may be.
Note that the LA Times editorialist even admits that patriots are fundamentally law-abiding and a non-threat--this after suggesting earlier in the article that patriots are a bigger threat than foreign terrorists. Well, actually, that wouldn't be hard, since foreign terrorists that have attacked the U.S. have been almost exclusively patsies used by the "intelligence" community to create false fear to get people to go along with further intrusions in the name of "anti-terror." More terror to fight terror; that's a good one. (Groundless conspiracy theory, or just valid news?)
Now, if you're a good little follower, you're supposed to say, "You're a conspiracy theorist." ...which is supposed to be the ultimate put-down to make me slink off like some rat that prefers the dark. This is how they defend and further their illegal and amoral actions: first, make out that the actions are to accomplish something "good." Then, make those who, despite this, identify those actions as illegal and amoral, and even counterproductive, as "kooks." Then make folks that won't stop identifying... make them dangerous. It's quite clear that they will not stop there, if someone is consistently effective. Example of last: Breitbart. Conspiracy? Perhaps. And what about that dead coroner's deputy who did Breitbart's autopsy? Hmmmm.
Is their hiding in the shadows and working out talking points, involving multiple parties and multiple levels, making plans... is this not conspiratorial? And yes, if the conspiracy is to "quietly" overthrow the lawful government of the United States, by incrementally eliminating our rights and subverting our voting, and turning the country--and the world--into a fascist dictatorship... is this not a criminal conspiracy? Of COURSE it is! For those of you who can't see that, WAKE UP!!
See my post that refers you to They Live. Even though it's comically fictional, it's still right on!
The LA Times editor goes on to suggest that patriots should consider that their rhetoric inspires the Tim McVeighs of the world. Haha right. What did LA Times say about the Black Panthers putting a bounty on Zimmerman's head after he shot the perp that beat him to a pulp for following? And what about all those black racist comments on social media about "pink people"? What about when Piers Morgan and guests spoke, relishingly, of shooting Alex Jones? I'll bet LA Times said not one word. So, what is it, in fact, LA Times? Are you really worried about domestic terrorism and crime, or are you just worried about those people who could, conceivably, put up a defense against the final onslaught of tyranny? Which are your thirty pieces of silver?
And beyond that, for anyone with a healthy curiosity, there is a whole bunch of evidence, free for the asking, that the Murrah Building had nothing to do with these patriots that are under fire from SPLC and ilk, and everything to do with a psy-op to create a cause to attempt to discredit constitutionalists who are opposed to the globalist/fascist dictatorship that has been forming for decades.
I also, after hearing about a passport that survived fire and explosion hot enough to bring down a superbuilding a la controlled demolition--in fact, three of them--looking only like it'd been in someone's pants' seatpocket for a few days--I can't believe the official story on 9/11, either. These are FALSE FLAGS, folks! Events, as horrible as it is to have to say it, that are designed by criminals--MONSTERS--who want to steal freedom and eat out our wealth--and want us to go along with "anti-terror" that has nothing to do with fighting (non-existent) terrorism and everything to do with establishing their vaunted, predatory control grid.
Whenever I hear a politician or journalist talking about "gun control" in a favorable light, I wish I could ask him (or her), "Why? What have you done, are you doing, or are you about to do, that will make fundamentally law-abiding people want to shoot you? What attack, what predation, are you out to launch that would justify such actions in the minds of good people?"
Getting back to SPLC's lists, mostly the listed groups merely contend against the subversion of America into a cesspool of mercantile/fascist corporate moguls and government apparatchiks at the top, with the rest of us alllll the waaaaaaayyyyy dooooowwwwwwnnnnn heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeere. I guess such opposition makes said groups "dangerous" and "terrorists." Well, it's kinda true, but only to the purposes of the subversives, not to the purposes of lawful government and the free people who are its constituency.
Ah yes, "But they're anti-government! They're anti-government!" Nope. SPLC and its masters, the fascist elite, want you to believe that. If you're tempted to believe it, don't! Don't be so gullible! THEY--SPLC and their Masters and affiliates--are the subverters, who want to convert a wholesome government, and who have to far too great a degree succeeded, into totalitarian control.
I'm not saying that everything these anti-tyranny groups are on about is correct or even great. I disagree with many of, especially the religious crowd's, ideas. I don't think religion should be the basis for tyranny any more than I think secularism should be. I just oppose tyranny. Just let people be, dammit! Enforce THAT! What's wrong with such an idea? That's what America was built on, and that's what it should be built on. That's what is sustainable, the real kind.
On the "Nativist Extremist Groups" page, really, there are a few organizations, but they've listed out each local chapter of such organizations as if it were a separate group. Makes it more "fearsome," I suppose, makes SPLC "all the more important as the sentry," I suppose. They did the same thing with their Active Patriot Groups page, as well. No wonder there's this big uptick in "hate groups" according to SPLC's ignoramus propagandistic pseudo-reasoning: more lines of data, describing the very same thing as stood before--because now, it's broken out by chapter!
The Reasonable ConclusionSPLC is a master propagandist for government power: a mouthpiece, message advisor, meme developer and a talking points distributor to the MSM on behalf of big government/fascistic global enterprise. The MSM have been co-opted for many decades (see Yellow Journalism and its use in the Spanish-American War and the drug war insanity), and are completely subservient to the same masters as SPLC. This is why the MSM are losing share and widely regarded as useless or worse.
SPLC and those who control them and the MSM (we'll call these controllers "the Masters") want to impose a domineering government of mercantilist/fascist elites to run everything as a coalition between big government and big business moguls, with the rest of us little better than livestock to be herded, fleeced and slaughtered. Anyone that gets in their way is to be stopped, countered and, failing that, destroyed--usually maliciously labeled in an attempt to marginalize and/or discredit them.
This would be anyone who speaks for freedom and lawful conduct of government according to the Constitution (the supreme, overriding law for the U.S.); such demands militate against the kind of control grid the Masters seek. And that's why SPLC and ilk attack constitutionalists, patriots and libertarians, who are all about peace, freedom, individualism, equality of all individuals before law (in other words, one's class, race, ethnicity, lifestyle, religion or powerful position shall make no difference when it comes to the law), and independence from busy-body overseers who deign to play parent--or god--to us.
We freedom-minded are dangerous to the Masters' self-aggrandizing, self-enriching and narcissistic goals; thus they use SPLC and their other puppets (MSM and DHS, etc) to attack us with epithets such as "conspiracy theorist," "extremist," "racist," "terrorist," "hate-monger," and "dangerous," which appears to be what the Masters and their tools actually are. ...and some of you actually fall for their crap! What are we coming to, folks? Will we, you and I because we won't hang together for freedom, let them win? Screw that!! Let's hang together for freedom, even if we find each other's personal choices in life distasteful--as long as those choices don't allow demonstrably human-on-human predation!
Summation: we are in a vicious propaganda war, with SPLC, its Masters and affiliates as highly motivated aggressors. The rest of us are victims and perhaps defenders who must back them off. Not just stop them, but back them off decisively.
Here's what someone else said, got it out there, while I was still struggling with this article:
Though posing as an anti-racist monitoring institution, the SPLC’s primary concern has never been the KKK or “White Identity.” Rather, the SPLC’s job has been and always will be to marginalize and defame those who stand against centralized federal power, regardless of how corrupt that power has become. They are not anti-racists, or liberals, or concerned citizens; they are STATISTS, who only care about maintaining the superiority of a government that has been bought and paid for many times over by a gaggle of international financiers with delusions of godhood.
Epilogue... actually, random thoughts, sorta, that came as I wrote this thing... not easy to incorporate into a purposeful article, but perhaps useful anyway...SPLC wants you to believe that Barak Obama's unpopularity, especially with the so-called Right, is because of race or some kind of racial displacement syndrome or some such. Hey, I'm sure there is at least 0.01% of the Right (by today's bogus definitions of right v left) that feels that way. But notice, that leaves 99.99% who don't like him for his policies. And most are equally horrified by both Bushes and the Clinton Administration, along with almost every presidency since Jefferson. Obama is not an ethnically interesting guy who is getting crap for his features; he's ideologically corrupt, and probably is just being pushed around. The skeletons in his closet are tremendous, I discern. And "they" know about his skeletons and use them mercilessly as needed.
I couldn't care less, and neither could most patriots, if Obama's heritage were Martian and he had fire red hair and bright green skin. I think it'd be kinda cool, actually. But his political point of view... it stinks! And! he's even losing many of those who voted for him because of his racial factors. What? Did they suddenly become white racist? Hehe, get real!
I have a close friend, a woman, a white woman, who most strongly argued that it was great to have a black man go into the Oval Office; she insisted that he'd be more attuned to the needs of average everyday Americans; now she despises him as bad as she despises Bush. That's ... pretty bad. Reportedly, this is happening with a lot of people.
And now we see many reports of people who tried, repeatedly, to get their voting machine to allow them to vote for Romney; it kept switching to Obama. It would appear that the support for Obama is in the machines, not as much in the populace. So now the apparatus and its apparatchiks control not only propaganda, but voting itself? Well, this has been being predicted and reported for a long time. It's not like this is news... it's just ... the kind of stuff the conspiracy deems un-publishable.
Anyway, most people I know are more concerned about Obama's apparent deceitfulness, lawlessness (Constitution, anyone? ... Fricasied?), secretiveness, apparent willingness to foment disruption absolutely anywhere and everywhere, illegal wars and allegedly non-war "kinetic actions," and now, yes, as a final straw, his attack on the Constitution via the Second Amendment--which no freedom minded person believed wasn't coming.
...just need the right crisis...
As to SPLC's ability to find extremism in odd places: when non-violent people argue for peace and freedom, as noted above, this is what SPLC calls extremism. Now, I think I might underestimate SPLC if I were to suggest that they are too stupid to be able to differentiate between real freedom-minded people--- and those who shout for the "freedom" to be vicious to other races or people with other lifestyles than their own.
Yes, I don't think SPLC's a bit stupid. So that could only mean that there is an agenda that they serve that is also well served by deceit. ...which leads to the conclusion above: that they are naught but a propaganda tool, serving tyrants who masquerade as good capitalists.
Next time you hear about extremists, ask yourself, "What's so extreme about them and is it bad? Or is it just a word that has been served up to further the Masters' takeover agenda?
...Well, wouldn't want to support those extremists...
What? Like, for instance, a government that doesn't want any backtalk? Like an organization that will libel a whole demographic ("white religious males") ignoring the many other demographics who are in agreement with the accused group) because they ... own guns and are tired of always having some not particularly credible someone say, "You don't need that"? ...because they think the law of the land should apply? ...because they don't like being insulted with controlling behavior by inferior people who deign, illegally, to rule?
Matthews and his Hardball crowd also try to pretend that intrusion into people's choices and lives isn't tyranny, that robbing some people on behalf of others isn't corrupt, illegal, amoral and socialistic--but it is. That's the very definition of tyranny!
How can they look straight at you and LIE like that??? What's wrong with them?
Let's understand something: aggressors will always blame their victim. They will call all those who oppose them either "intolerant," "xenophobic," "militant," "extremist," "terrorist"... or something else like "kook" or "conspiracy theorist." It doesn't matter that these accusations are ridiculous and hypocritical; it's just the way all criminals play the game.
The very fact that SPLC is so ... apparently paranoid, seeing hate everywhere among freedom proponents... well, I don't believe that SPLC is just "intolerant" of another "lifestyle." I think it's much more purposeful than that. And I think the purpose is to annoy and provoke, marginalize, and silence any opposition from the freedom lobby.
I wonder how SPLC, as both anti-gun and pro-LGBT, deals with the Pink Pistols, a relatively militant pro-gun group founded and mostly populated by LGBTs... It must just blaze cognitive dissonance for them! Must be pretty rough--awww, poor babies. Good! I think it's AWESOME that at least some gays and lesbians recognize that the Democrat/Republican party lines are terrible, twisted wrecks of half-baked, contradictory pseudo-ideological pap that should be rejected in favor of fundamental principles--a real ideology that makes sense.
The government propaganda organs (the MSM and SPLC) are creating a foundational narrative for DHS to use to go further into overdrive, pursuing "homegrown terrorists," which are now identified in multiple government documents (per SPLC's "research") as anyone who talks "too much" about the constitution, has bumper stickers promoting Ron Paul or Chuck Baldwin, likes guns, uses cash instead of plastic for purchases (even small ones), has significant "prepper" supplies, ...and the list goes on--basically, when you get right down to it, it says, "If you don't praise DHS and Congress daily, uplifting your voice in praise of intrusions, you just might be a terrorist."
Chris Rock recently called Obama, (quoting loosely) "the bid daddy" ("The boss" and "like the ... dad of this country"). He is neither and is not supposed to be either. He is only legally boss of the executive branch of the Federal Government, and if that were all kept to legal limits, it would be maybe 0.1% of the size it is now.
Besides, I don't know about you, but I grew up. My Dad is my dad, and I completely reject the idea that ANYONE in DC (or any other capitol) is a parental unit to me in any way, shape or form. ...and I have a boss at work, but that's my ONLY boss. Customers are somewhat like bosses, so that could fly too. But not Obama (or Clinton, or Bush I or Bush II or Reagan, or Carter, or Ford, or ... I haven't liked ANY of the puppet presidents). And I'm not a child in need of parenting.
But there are still those who think that the people need to be daddied, mommied and nannied. Above them are those who stand to benefit most from all of that control: the ones I call Masters. We have some idea who they are; they're the banksters, who by the way, don't only own and control banks, but a great many assets around the world, particularly when it comes to transnational and other large corporations, but including presidents, congresscritters, regulators, and so on. Their ownership may be hidden, but it's real.
SPLC's specialty is in moving big government forward--bigger and bigger--by marginalizing opponents to growth of government power and opponents of governmental lawlessness. They do it by making them out to be angry loons filled with irrational hate; people who don't understand what's good for them, and who, "in fact," are downright harmful to themselves and others.
SPLC has done this for a long time, and their operatives are very good at it when operating on an unsuspecting, gullible public. One almost has to respect SPLC; it really knows its business.
All a patriot is, is someone who believes in our constitutional form of government, and wants to hold the current office holders to it. That's it; that's about all that is the common thread of "patriots." Otherwise, Patriot Movement folks are just like the rest of America, coming in all shapes and sizes, genders, races, ethnicities, religions, and intentions on how to hold the current office holders to the Constitution.